Comments on: They Don’t Call it Hardware for Nothing http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/ this blog is girtby.net Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:44:34 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9-rare hourly 1 By: mary http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2653 mary Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:55:58 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2653 <p>I’m 40 and just completed My Clifford.. he was my first little electronic thingy.</p> <p>I felt lost most of the way but found a couple of pages that really helped me in trying to find out what resister was the one to use. </p> <p>http://samengstrom.com/nxl/10116/5_band_resistor_color_code_page.en.html the above page really helped me sort out which was which.</p> <p>(as they pretty much looked the same to me).. Plus i might need a magnifying glass to see the lines better.. (gosh i might be getting old - ack!)</p> <p>Ps the diodes look fine.. on the instructions it said A was the positive side and K was negative.. so it looks like you have them the right way around.</p> <p>Mine works pretty good.. just i was hopping for a better sounding chirp.. hope i have helped in some way .. Cheers Mary.</p> I’m 40 and just completed My Clifford.. he was my first little electronic thingy.

I felt lost most of the way but found a couple of pages that really helped me in trying to find out what resister was the one to use.

http://samengstrom.com/nxl/10116/5_band_resistor_color_code_page.en.html the above page really helped me sort out which was which.

(as they pretty much looked the same to me).. Plus i might need a magnifying glass to see the lines better.. (gosh i might be getting old – ack!)

Ps the diodes look fine.. on the instructions it said A was the positive side and K was negative.. so it looks like you have them the right way around.

Mine works pretty good.. just i was hopping for a better sounding chirp.. hope i have helped in some way .. Cheers Mary.

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By: Alan Green http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2304 Alan Green Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:41:44 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2304 <p>This is a stretch, but did you check the errata on the Silicon Chip web site? http://siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_104479/article.html</p> This is a stretch, but did you check the errata on the Silicon Chip web site? http://siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_104479/article.html

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By: alastair http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2260 alastair Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:04:37 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2260 <p>On the subject of DealExtreme, as on many other subjects, <a href="http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/09/26/never-mind-the-quality-feel-the-price/" rel="nofollow">Dan</a> has worthwhile things to say.</p> <p>Martin: I have no idea why your comment got marked as spam. I use the Akismet distributed spam detection system which I was moderately happy with the two false positives. I <a href="/archives/2008/07/31/bayes-theorem-1-mandatory-filtering-0/" rel="nofollow">hate</a> false positives. Not sure what I'm going to do about it, but I know I'm <em>very</em> reluctant to implement CAPTCHA or any other nonsense like that.</p> On the subject of DealExtreme, as on many other subjects, Dan has worthwhile things to say.

Martin: I have no idea why your comment got marked as spam. I use the Akismet distributed spam detection system which I was moderately happy with the two false positives. I hate false positives. Not sure what I’m going to do about it, but I know I’m very reluctant to implement CAPTCHA or any other nonsense like that.

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By: Martin http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2232 Martin Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:19:49 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2232 <p>You're better off removing the transistors from the circuit to test them.</p> <p>With regards to testing voltages at various points, if it's not marked on the circuit, you'll need to calculate the expected voltage at various points based on the circuit diagram.</p> <p>(On another note....any idea why my comment got flagged as spam? Was it due to the fact that I had an embedded URL in the text...or was it something else?)</p> You’re better off removing the transistors from the circuit to test them.

With regards to testing voltages at various points, if it’s not marked on the circuit, you’ll need to calculate the expected voltage at various points based on the circuit diagram.

(On another note….any idea why my comment got flagged as spam? Was it due to the fact that I had an embedded URL in the text…or was it something else?)

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By: alastair http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2228 alastair Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:18:55 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2228 <p>Apologies to marxy and Martin, whose comments I had to rescue from the spam bin... :(</p> <p>@marxy: I saw that errata; it had been applied to the diagram supplied in the kit.</p> <p>@Martin: I also saw that hint (and in fact linked to it in the post!)</p> <p>I've got a circuit diagram but am not really familiar enough with reading it to know how to do troubleshooting.</p> <p>For example, how do I read it to know what the voltage should be at various points? Also, if I want to test a transistor in-situ, is that even possible? (Current theory is that I've fried one of them while soldering).</p> Apologies to marxy and Martin, whose comments I had to rescue from the spam bin… :(

@marxy: I saw that errata; it had been applied to the diagram supplied in the kit.

@Martin: I also saw that hint (and in fact linked to it in the post!)

I’ve got a circuit diagram but am not really familiar enough with reading it to know how to do troubleshooting.

For example, how do I read it to know what the voltage should be at various points? Also, if I want to test a transistor in-situ, is that even possible? (Current theory is that I’ve fried one of them while soldering).

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By: alastair http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2224 alastair Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:30:52 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2224 <p>Sunny: Nup, I'm pretty sure the circles are there to remind you to mount the component vertically, as I have done with the resistors. For whatever reason I didn't mount the diodes vertically as well.</p> Sunny: Nup, I’m pretty sure the circles are there to remind you to mount the component vertically, as I have done with the resistors. For whatever reason I didn’t mount the diodes vertically as well.

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By: Sunny Kalsi http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2223 Sunny Kalsi Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:12:49 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2223 <p>If the "A" denotes the "anode", then what do the circles mean? Could it be possible that the "A" simply means that the <em>circle</em> is the anode (as oppposed to "K" and a circle)?</p> If the “A” denotes the “anode”, then what do the circles mean? Could it be possible that the “A” simply means that the circle is the anode (as oppposed to “K” and a circle)?

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By: alastair http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2221 alastair Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:16:04 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2221 <p>Err, which one? Both have the non-striped end aligned with the A (for Anode) markers.</p> Err, which one? Both have the non-striped end aligned with the A (for Anode) markers.

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By: alphajuliet http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2214 alphajuliet Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:02:38 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2214 <p>One of your diodes looks the wrong way around.</p> <p>A.</p> One of your diodes looks the wrong way around.

A.

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By: Martin http://girtby.net/archives/2009/01/11/they-dont-call-it-hardware-for-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2212 Martin Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:51:46 +0000 http://girtby.net/?p=3680#comment-2212 <p>Without a circuit diagram for clifford, it's a bit hard to troubleshoot it remotely ;-)</p> <p>However, according to <a href="http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_102711/article.html" rel="nofollow">this page</a>, some things to check include:</p> <ul> <li><p>check that you haven't transposed Q1 and Q2</p></li> <li><p>check the orientation of D1 and D2</p></li> <li><p>check your resistors</p></li> </ul> <p>(Note that the silicon chip page is wrong when it says <i>"the anode (A) is the end of the diode with the stripe. Both anodes for D1 and D2 should be toward the 3.3kΩ resistor."</i> The anode is the end of the diode <b>without</b> the stripe! Assuming the screen printing on the top of the PCB is correct, then both your diodes are oriented correctly.)</p> Without a circuit diagram for clifford, it’s a bit hard to troubleshoot it remotely ;-)

However, according to this page, some things to check include:

  • check that you haven’t transposed Q1 and Q2

  • check the orientation of D1 and D2

  • check your resistors

(Note that the silicon chip page is wrong when it says “the anode (A) is the end of the diode with the stripe. Both anodes for D1 and D2 should be toward the 3.3kΩ resistor.” The anode is the end of the diode without the stripe! Assuming the screen printing on the top of the PCB is correct, then both your diodes are oriented correctly.)

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